What's actually wrong with the team?

[OhW 325]

I think the group of players we had last year put too much emphasis on the semi-final against the taigs. It seems to me now like that was their peak; that week of winning The Championship, Petrofac then the semi-final. They haven't been able to lift themselves since. Look at the outpouring of emotion after that game, and what we've done since. The summer signings haven't managed to reinvigorate the group and we just look shite.

[danger ranger 333]

1 hour ago, DBBTB said:

Marketing ploy to get people to buy season tickets.

A marketing ploy they had to use due to having no money, what will they stoop to next season, the thought of qualifying for Europe must put the shitters up them as the fans will expect real investment they don't have.

[Vanoli 789]

Just about everything.

[Reformation Bear 2,170]

If we don't win the only 'must achieve' target set by King for this season of qualifying for a European place for next season then this thread could probably be resurrected next May as the basis for understanding the failure - and make no mistake it would be a failure as much for the Board as for Warburton and the team - and the reasons are set out in a number of previous posts in this thread. I'd add:............

Playing by method and persistently not seeking to adapt and change despite it not working with the players appears like making the same mistakes over and over again in the hope that it will somehow work out alright in the end. Maybe it will for this season but the evidence so far doesn't inspire.

Limited leadership attributes on the pitch but much more importantly from the manager. Warburton can analyse and quote the stats. The knowledge of what to do to remedy the problems is there - at least in theory. They have meetings They discuss. They even have heated discussions (one on a volcanic scale and see where that got Barton). But ....and its a very big but......there is insufficient translation of that knowledge into action for succeeding games That is down to managerial leadership and its not happening well enough.

Players are generally not good enough to compete for the top honour in this league. Insufficient quality, skill, toughness and pace throughout the spine of the team. Can't defend well - just look at Hill's comments earlier in the week where he acknowledged he was struggling to adapt to Warburton's method; lost the habit of creating and taking enough goal scoring opportunities; and easily overwhelmed and overrun in midfield. Problems all round and with the business end of the season approaching there is very little time for Warburton to start showing that he is fixing these problems.

[Jack The Flipper 1,863]

They're all injured

[Rangersfansmediawatch 491]

Lack of quailty,Some players don't look interested and struggling to hit any consistency or form.

Groundhog day every week with the same subs and never make any impact and lack of severe competition for places,Most players know they will be picked every week regardless of how they play,So that isn't really motivation to do well and keep your place,Play bad and you'll still be in the team next week.

Quality is the one thing holding us back and quality is what wins games and league's ,But also costs decent money which we don't have.

Unless a fair amount of cash is brought in to purchase the quality needed,Then we will be looking upwards at the unwashed for a few years which will test the patience of many a Rangers fan.

I reckon around £15m would get us maybe the 4 quality players needed to at least challenge.

[Barbarrosa 25]

A failure to accept that "Rome wasn't built in a day"

The way MW wants to play is brilliant, but we're not capable of that yet. We need to MOVE TOWARDS that style of play.

In the meantime we've got games to win today.

You can't just watch a CL game and think "fuck it we're going to play like Barca"

MW needs to realise that todays' reality must take priority over tomorrows' dreams.

[sammy cox 565]

28 minutes ago, Rangersfansmediawatch said:

Lack of quailty,Some players don't look interested and struggling to hit any consistency or form.

Groundhog day every week with the same subs and never make any impact and lack of severe competition for places,Most players know they will be picked every week regardless of how they play,So that isn't really motivation to do well and keep your place,Play bad and you'll still be in the team next week.

Quality is the one thing holding us back and quality is what wins games and league's ,But also costs decent money which we don't have.

Unless a fair amount of cash is brought in to purchase the quality needed,Then we will be looking upwards at the unwashed for a few years which will test the patience of many a Rangers fan.

I reckon around £15m would get us maybe the 4 quality players needed to at least challenge.

You know a lot of what you said at the beginning of your post is very valid but to think the club is going to spend 15 million really undone all your good work. It is all about opinions right enough and everyone is entitled to theirs all be it some are a little far fetched.

[Rangersfansmediawatch 491]

12 minutes ago, Barbarrosa said:

The way MW wants to play is brilliant, but we're not capable of that yet. We need to MOVE TOWARDS that style of play.

We were more than capable last season of playing the way he wants.

[Rangersfansmediawatch 491]

2 minutes ago, sammy cox said:

You know a lot of what you said at the beginning of your post is very valid but to think the club is going to spend 15 million really undone all your good work. It is all about opinions right enough and everyone is entitled to theirs all be it some are a little far fetched.

I never said we're going to spend £15m. That's what i reckon is needed to get the quality to challenge,It's also why i stated we will be looking upwards at the unwashed for years.

[ben51 4,914]

More investment and a higher quality of player is the simple and logical answer.

[sammy cox 565]

2 minutes ago, Rangersfansmediawatch said:

I never said we're going to spend £15m. That's what i reckon is needed to get the quality to challenge,It's also why i stated we will be looking upwards at the unwashed for years.

No but you reckon it will take 15 million to maybe get the four players required to mount a challenge so I'm kind of puzzled what your point is. Do you think/want/reckon that 15 million should be spent or not.

[Barbarrosa 25]

12 minutes ago, Rangersfansmediawatch said:

We were more than capable last season of playing the way he wants.

Against lesser opposition.

[In Dungeons Deep 633]

15 minutes ago, sammy cox said:

No but you reckon it will take 15 million to maybe get the four players required to mount a challenge so I'm kind of puzzled what your point is. Do you think/want/reckon that 15 million should be spent or not.

We need more than 4 players. I'd say 15 Mil is about the right sum needed.

[Rangersfansmediawatch 491]

17 minutes ago, sammy cox said:

No but you reckon it will take 15 million to maybe get the four players required to mount a challenge so I'm kind of puzzled what your point is. Do you think/want/reckon that 15 million should be spent or not.

Why are you puzzled ? That's what it will take ballpark,Doesn't matter in the slightest what i think/reckon or want,Simple fact is that's what it would take to get quality players to challenge.

[Rangersfansmediawatch 491]

20 minutes ago, Barbarrosa said:

Against lesser opposition.

Then that answers why we are so poor and proves we don't have the quality to sustain any kind of challenge against better teams.

[sammy cox 565]

Just now, In Dungeons Deep said:

We need more than 4 players. I'd say 15 Mil is about the right sum needed.

Luckily it's only a social media outlet where people can express their opinions which they are entitled to do, but at the end of the day the majority of those opinions are exactly that a social media opinion that dont influence the real world of multi millionaires deciding how they are going to spend their money.

[KeyserSoze 1,718]

9 hours ago, graeme_4 said:

There's been a lot of negativity on here recently, and I actually held back from posting for a while as I just couldn't be arsed with all the hysterical overreactions.

There's been loads of criticism flying about - mostly aimed at King and Warburton, for not providing adequate funds and for not wisely using the funds that were provided.

Despite that, we still have the 2nd highest budget and I'd argue a much better quality of manager, backroom staff, facilities and players than the rest (outside of Celtic).

Ultimately, any 11 we put out on the park should be able to beat the others (over a season).

*****I still firmly believe we'll finish second.

However, we're far from firing on all cylinders at the moment. The question is why?

Constructively, I think we lack a number of things...

- physical strength (particularly in the middle of the park)

- a quick ball winning CB

- players with a winning mentality

- ability to move the ball quickly from back to front (on the deck)

I'm not looking to turn this into another 'Warbs oot' thread, but more constructive in terms of where we need to improve. Thoughts...?

*****That's what is actually wrong with the team

[.Williamson. 3,599]

The team is shite

[Barbarrosa 25]

19 minutes ago, Rangersfansmediawatch said:

Then that answers why we are so poor and proves we don't have the quality to sustain any kind of challenge against better teams.

That's one option. We can continue to play the same way, keep dropping points and if we're lucky we'll end up back and the Championship and start to look good again.

Or....

WE COULD TRY SOMETHING FUCKING DIFFERENT.

[STEPPS BOY 4,664]

Not enough folk from Ireland in team..

hopefully this changes soon..

[Smile 6,762]

7 hours ago, DBBTB said:

Marketing ploy to get people to buy season tickets.

Like the send them home happy, Clever and works on some i guess.

[Vwbear 326]

1 hour ago, Rangersfansmediawatch said:

We were more than capable last season of playing the way he wants.

Yeah for the first 2months then were rotten aside from the cup run then were awful in the cup final

[Barbarrosa 25]

So far this season we've picked up about 55% of the points available. If we continue at the same rate we'll have 62 points at the end of the season.

Last season 62 points would have got us 4th.

Now it's all conjecture and we're dealing with very fine margins.

The late winner that KM scored against Motherwell might not have happened and we'd be 2 points worse off. Or the 3 games that we drew at home might have been wins and we'd be 6 points better off.

So who knows what's to come. I'd just be more comfortable if we mixed it up a bit.

By all means start 4 3 3. But if it's not working, change it before the points are dropped.

[WeirFleckNRothen 891]

A recruitment campaign targetting young, hungry and unproven talent like Holt, Halliday, Kiernan and Tavernier, who all had fantastic first seasons at the club, was replaced with an emphasis on old, ageing and past it transfers like Barton, Kranjcar, Hill and Senderos.

That changed the dynamics of the side and while the older recruits have struggled to dominate teams earning a fraction of their salaries, last season's revelations have struggled with the step-up.

Barton's comments at the start of the season, as well as that cringeworthy #goingfor55 campaign, have served to emphasise our plight.

I should add, though, that I'm not impressed by people saying we must finish second. If we don't finish second, I'll self-harm. This is the worst league in the free world.