What's actually wrong with the team?

[Pedrono1 16]

The quality of player is absolutely shocking and piss poor that's what the problem is although there is nothing we can do about it do will continue to get the dross we hv signed

[sammy cox 565]

8 hours ago, DBBTB said:

Marketing ploy to get people to buy season tickets.

So you think tens of thousands of Rangers supporters who have bought season tickets for years did so this season due to a " marketing ploy".Perhaps a few thousand who have never had a season ticket have, but the majority of ST holders have bought their season tickets due to their support of the club and will always buy regardless of any so called marketing ploy.Will wait and see if those who bought this season due to the marketing ploy renew next season.

[blueretro 368]

28 minutes ago, sammy cox said:

9 hours ago, DBBTB said:

Marketing ploy to get people to buy season tickets.

My family upbringing 50 years back was a marketing ploy and it worked wonders.

[Creampuff 5,756]

We're shite.

People will bring up that Celtic game, but that was a one off match when our confidence was sky high.

The crux of our team are rejects from SPL/English lower leagues. The players we have simply aren't good enough.

[_mcv_ 77]

We are playing for second in the league this season, and I am sure we will finish there.

The only things wrong with the team are players lost to injury and bartons pish.

[Juniorsparkie 61]

13 hours ago, born a blue nose said:

No plan B

Fuckin Plan A isn't much cop at present either.

[King Jela 4,673]

We're halfway into the most unique season in our club's history.

Theres never been a season where Rangers have just been promoted, there's never been a season where every game is a cup final to the opposition and there's never been a season where there's been such a gulf in class and finance between ourselves and the tarriers. All that without even mentioning the lack of investment, manager's faults and fans impatience which all leads to an unhappy time for Rangers.

[Gary Wilmot's Wedding Brek 288]

Warburton is clueless, that's the problem. Be it in defending, in changing things when a match isn't going our way, or in recognising the futility of him stubbornly persisting with a system that doesn't work game after game. I think the players couldn't give a shit if he's sacked. Sooner he's out the door the better. Don't get me wrong, I like him as a man, and his theoretical ideology as to how the game should be played is admirable, but when it comes to managing a football team and getting results, his theories don't work, and his continual failures show him up to be a tactical buffoon. He's just not Rangers class.

[WeirFleckNRothen 891]

Those who don't believe that the #goingfor55 campaign was a marketting ploy are naive, but I don't blame them; we haven't been exposed to such initiatives because the club, or certain people to be precise, have neglected this area over the past few years.

I'm not suggesting that we would have had 15,000 season tickets without it, but it absolutely assisted in shifting a few more.

Even I, well aware of the difficulties we faced in competing with Celtic, became prone to not even batting an eyelid when Barton claimed this and that, Senderos hashtagged the term upon joining and the Govan stand carried out that display. Looking back, I should have been concerned. It was bold and I fell for it.

To be fair, it's cringworthy as fuck and has come back to bite us in the arse, but it's absolutely a marketting ploy that had an effect.

[insider 48]

I think a lot of our problems are down to lack of mental strength.

The players we have are struggling with the expectation of having to win, every week.

When we don't win the pressure intensifies. Players are only human and will, maybe not openly, start to wonder who is to blame. MW appears to be a proper gentleman and I think would rather speak to the squad about any errors than pick out an individual player for the hairdryer treatment... Now this " gentlemeny" approach may be nice and polite and non offensive but some players not used to that approach may see it as weak.

So players being players while in each other's company will be aware that our system and " plan a only " is being criticized will take it upon themselves to agree to blame MW.

So we either need better players who respond better to MWs style or a manager whose not afraid to pick out individuals in a group and tell them they made a cuxx of it..

A lot of writing to basically agree with what everyone else is saying..

I think if MW was given ten years with one club he would build a great team, but that ain't going to happen anywhere..

The guy we recently let go could have been a great player for us but MW couldn't handle him properly.

[Smile 6,762]

We are trying to compete while buying championship players, This Board has let us down badly as has the Manager with the money he has had.

[don logan 651]

Can't score and concede too many. Simple.

[sammy cox 565]

1 minute ago, don logan said:

Can't score and concede too many. Simple.

Fair points but if you look at our goals against ( apart from the scum ) we are not conceding barrel loads of goals, but we are not scoring enough.Goals win games plain and simple.To many chances not taken by all our front men and that's our main problem.

[kingtom80 65]

we are just not good enough,too many players

have not made the step up from the championship,

we need another four or five good players asap.

[THE_MIGHTY_BEARS 3,778]

Two wide players that can take on defenders, create chances for the lone forward, and score goals. If we had competent wide players we could be 10 points better off right now. McKay, Waghorn, and Miller are largely ineffective from the wide areas.

[sammy cox 565]

1 minute ago, THE_MIGHTY_BEARS said:

Two wide players that can take on defenders, create chances for the lone forward, and score goals. If we competent wide players we could be 10 points better off right now. McKay, Waghorn, and Miller are largely ineffective from the wide areas.

Even one good wide man who can create chances for two forwards but it must give us goals. Miller and Waghorn out wide is pish and not the answer as for McKay well the least said about him this season the better.

[don logan 651]

37 minutes ago, sammy cox said:

Fair points but if you look at our goals against ( apart from the scum ) we are not conceding barrel loads of goals, but we are not scoring enough.Goals win games plain and simple.To many chances not taken by all our front men and that's our main problem.

Concede too many in relation to the number we score, puts it better.

[sammy cox 565]

Just now, don logan said:

Concede too many in relation to the number we score, puts it better.

I know what you are saying but in some games we have conceded none and scored none.conceding is an issue but not such a big issue if you are scoring more than you concede.We are not taking the few chances that you will get and there lies our main problem.

[K.A.I 8,593]

All of the stuff in the OP is valid and correct (even if it's been discussed loads)

I'm wondering now too (in light of Rossiter being injured again) is there stuff happening behind the scenes in training too? is Craig Flannighan really the man or another jobs for the boys as he's a long-time pal of Weir's ... if you think about it ...

Crooks = always injured/not ready
Rossiter = always injured/played about 3 games/rumours are he's "homesick" and want's away
Barton = perhaps told a few home truths to Halliday, Warburton and Weir and the marquee signing is right out the door
Nico = out for season, possibly career finished at Rangers - we knew he had a bad injury and signed him. Possibly took a gamble?
Garner = might be a decent forward but just now looks like 2 million wasted.
Senderos = said at the time he was pish, said after the Old Firm game he tried to get himself sent off and I still stand by that - hasn't really played since.
Hodson and Gilks = nothing against them, but let's face it, they are squad players.
Windass - Good player IMO - the summers only real success but he's spent more time out than he's played with a niggly hamstring too. He comes back then is out for the next game.

Seriously start to wonder if we are in the wrong hands at just about every level at our club,

[Ivybank 361]

Get warburton out now the guy is completely clueless, you wouldn't believe his instructions to certain players ,it's unbelievable

[heathen fish boy 1,625]

They've been on here to see what we think of them and the constant negativity is destroying morale

[WeirFleckNRothen 891]

I think we're in a catch-22 situation.

Realistically, we were never going to compete with Celtic. However, nor did we expect to lose two Old Firm games in the worst possible manners; a humiliation at Parkhead and a late winner at Hampden.

We spent four seasons outside the top flight as an indirect result of over-spending, yet we're critical of Dave King and co. because they haven't spent fortunes. Let's not forget that £1.8M was spent on Garner and Barton & Kranjcar weren't/aren't up here for a couple of quid.

We want Warburton sacked, disgregarding the positive changes he's made on the footballing side of things. The 6-2 win at Easter Road, the semi-final against Celtic, the 4-0 battering of Dundee, etc. We want to see good football, but we scream for Foderingham to defy Warburton's instructions and punt the ball aimlessly up the park as opposed to building from the back.

I'm not saying one opinion is right and the other is wrong; I've left Ibrox praising Warburton and I've left it calling for his head while I've also appreciated King's involvement, then disapproved of it.

As fans, we've been spoiled; exposed to success and celebration beyond our wildest dreams. The rebuilding job was always goining to generate backlash.

[OhW 325]

I lost a bit of respect for Warburton when he said in a recent press conference that his rhetoric hasn't changed since the summer. He claimed that he's always said the aim is to be "highly competitive" this season. Not true, in the summer he was saying the aim was to be "more than competitive".

[OhW 325]

1 hour ago, K.A.I said:

Crooks = always injured/not ready
Rossiter = always injured/played about 3 games/rumours are he's "homesick" and want's away
Barton = perhaps told a few home truths to Halliday, Warburton and Weir and the marquee signing is right out the door
Nico = out for season, possibly career finished at Rangers - we knew he had a bad injury and signed him. Possibly took a gamble?
Garner = might be a decent forward but just now looks like 2 million wasted.
Senderos = said at the time he was pish, said after the Old Firm game he tried to get himself sent off and I still stand by that - hasn't really played since.
Hodson and Gilks = nothing against them, but let's face it, they are squad players.
Windass - Good player IMO - the summers only real success but he's spent more time out than he's played with a niggly hamstring too. He comes back then is out for the next game.

You forgot Dodoo, and that pretty much sums up his Rangers career so far.

[Falcoholic 356]

12 hours ago, King Jela said:

there's never been a season where there's been such a gulf in class and finance between ourselves and the tarriers.

Since when did those soap dodging kiddy fiddling cunts ever have any class?